New scenario ideas?????????????????????????

ahh tsk Crotem the Dr -the best Dr was Tom Baker!!!!!!! Jelly Baby?

Ah yes, but the Daleks will never die - still going and I have been watching it for 100 years!

Such is the wonders of time manipulation for personal gains - bit like Alton Towers with its plans to play with nature so it doesn't rain on their precious overpriced rides.

ANYWAYS...

I think the added uniformity will have mixed feelings - perhaps including a resistance/civilian element to those type of games to ensure people are included? Either way such a concept will give many the much needed excuse to buy a entire 1940s wardrobe!

Here's my twopenn'th...

I'm having to cut back on kit purchases at the moment (er....OK apart from my custom K98!), so the idea of having to kit out as another particular unit doesn't really appeal. That said, I would really like to do more WW2 airsoft - in fact, since I bought my German kit, I have not worn my other airsoft team's kit (to the annoyance of the team boss!). I do prefer larger games, but if smaller ones are all that's available, then so be it.

Would it be a good idea to create a list of everyone's loadouts, then we could see what we've got, in order to minimise more kit buying?

[edit] Also, would it be a good idea to see what other WW2 airsoft groups there are about, and maybe organise skirmishes with them?

well my other scenario suggestion is a mod to the D Day idea- basically have up to 200 allies, around 150 or so Germans including police units of around a half dozen per unit, 'villages' set up (old huts etc) populated by native French who may/may not be Resistance, plus embedded into the population some SOE agents and then some Jedburgh commandos arrrive to stir things up a tad.
So landing on beach= 2 Brit platoons, 1 Brit commando squad, 2 Yank platoons, 1 Yank ranger squad plus armour. Off beach behind German lines=1 Brit para squad and 1 Yank Para squad
Far behind lines- 1-3 Jedburgh teams (sniper, medic, engineer, officer), up to 4 SOE(embedded in native population), native French population of say max 40?
Opposing landing -2 small german platoons plus vehicle for liaison.
Deep in rear-mechanised group of SS platoon plus.
behind main lines para squad, wermacht unit, police squads (1 per village/town)

The French would congregate around the villages-some in the huts, some farming, some labouring, others indulging in espionage and sabotage. German and French police observing, guarding villages.
Werhmact outside villages to move up to the beach, SS/mech units as far back as possible and have to pass obstacles (representing the delays they faced). To represent the activity of the RAF and USAAF German vehicles (and large groups of troops) may be subject to air attack and written off by Umpires.

I like the idea of having restricted units for a game but I think they'd either have to be fairly small games or not that restricted.
Gadges suggestion of 20 a side sounds fine for a very restricted game as thats probably the number of people right now who have the necessary kit. They can always be made larger if more people are interested. I personally have no interest in going SS or US but for a game involving unit I am interested in I would get hold of the necessary kit.

However for bigger games to ensure everybody who wants to play a level of requirements like the arnhem game would be better. A couple of different unit types for each side means people have a choice and non to strict look alike kit means people can get the kit specifically for that game if required.

As for a eastern front game, I am planning to get some Russian kit anyway so would defineatly be up for that. The already suggested option of a combined Russian infantry/partisan vs Heer/SS game would be best to begin with followed by a more restricted game later if all goes well.

A Dads army vs the Daleks or some such game also sounds like fun.

edit: I think steiners suggestion of finding out what kit people have could be useful in planning games, as would finding out what they are planning to or are prepared to get in the future. Although it could get a bit complex & confusing i'm sure you'll think of something.

Andy your idea sounds great but would be a nightmare to organise rather you than me.

Plus you'd have to find people prepared to play non reistance french and spend all day just wandering about site.

Woudl be an awesome game if you could pull it off though.

The idea of a player database with what units you can portray is a great idea though i think although again thats not the CiA line , just me going 'cool' so dont expect it to happen

ah Gadge but that would be the thing-are they normal French civvies or are the resistance workers????? They could change by the hour....also they could take photos or even be the marshals...

As at Arnhem then?

Although you find that if all civvies *can* be resistance their is a tendancy to just assume they all are.

yup I guess so-as at Arnhem, although with a caveat-the Jarmans might force them into digging trenches etc plus remember you've got them being policed too...could be interesting scenario in its own right-a secret army game...

Yeah nice idea Andy. Although I agree with Gadge that a 200 player game would be insane to organise having a smaller secret army game would be great. It would be the real life H&D2 partisan game I always dreamed of- http://www.pow.2hell.com/

Here's my twopenn'th...

I'm having to cut back on kit purchases at the moment (er....OK apart from my custom K98!), so the idea of having to kit out as another particular unit doesn't really appeal. That said, I would really like to do more WW2 airsoft - in fact, since I bought my German kit, I have not worn my other airsoft team's kit (to the annoyance of the team boss!). I do prefer larger games, but if smaller ones are all that's available, then so be it.

Would it be a good idea to create a list of everyone's loadouts, then we could see what we've got, in order to minimise more kit buying?

[edit] Also, would it be a good idea to see what other WW2 airsoft groups there are about, and maybe organise skirmishes with them?

Some nice ideas, although I think we have a reasonable idea of what most people can muster , and don't forget as well a lot depends of peoples availability to come to games, where they are held etc etc .

Without wanting to sound OTT, I think all of us here are what exists in WWII airsofting at the mo , although hopefully as more games get put on and draw more people in the scene and player base, teams etc will grow. This has been at the heart of CiAs dichotomy , keeping it real or keeping it open to attract more people in . Personally I think when theres a over a 1000 on this forum there will be a big enough player base ot cater for all tastes, but if we'll ever get there who knows. ?

Finally to those dicussing ideas , just go for it ! Contact your local site arrange a date and write a scenario . It doesn't have to be outstanding in content , and feel free to plagurise our rules, ideas, help whatever. 12 months ago we were all sat around bemoaning the lack of games, and what we've done since isn't rocket science , so please give it a go . For WWII to really take off it'll take more than just the games we can put on.

I can only echo that, Josh's D-Day game and Warren's games are great as it will be the only chance us guys will get to *play* a wwii game together as normaly even though we might look liek were playing, we've got half a mind on making sure everything runs smoothly

Be great to see some more independant games spring up.

Again its the double edged sword i'm afraid..

Re-nactment groups wont be interested unless kit is spot on and scenarios are accurate to a 'stitch counter' level.

Its a real shame but i really cant see it happening unless an event was branded as a 're-enactment battle with airsoft guns'

I could be wrong but im pretty sure thats the case

I love the idea of a on going campaign so to speak. where the outcome of the previous games determines factors in the next one. town assault did it with their big events and they only did 1 a year. could be alot of fun and by building the right scenarios could include all sorts of sides.

Imagine if we could get some of the larger re-enactment groups to soft!
Although in one way that would be cool, SdkFz's, Tigers, Shermans etc etc,

but, pretty as they are, how can they be any use other than as oversized props?

plus basically, we're just 'playing soldiers', the vast majority of 'reenactors' would do little more than sneer in our general direction...

Hey I just come along for the exercise, nevermind playing soldiers, it's just a damn sight more interesting than doing a 5km run followed by press ups. Anyway I don't care what the new scenario is just as long as it isn't as German biased and down right depressing as Churchills Revenge. (no offence to the organisers) I got piss wet through, fired my weapon twice in the entire game, the second time at point blank range at which point the 4 Germans promptly became bulletproof (absorbing 30 rounds) and peppered me. It's not that I didn't enjoy it, just don't like cheaters. Anyway I'll have a think about some scenarios.

Hey I just come along for the exercise, nevermind playing soldiers, it's just a damn sight more interesting than doing a 5km run followed by press ups. Anyway I don't care what the new scenario is just as long as it isn't as German biased and down right depressing as Churchills Revenge. (no offence to the organisers) I got piss wet through, fired my weapon twice in the entire game, the second time at point blank range at which point the 4 Germans promptly became bulletproof (absorbing 30 rounds) and peppered me. It's not that I didn't enjoy it, just don't like cheaters. Anyway I'll have a think about some scenarios.

Perehaps you'd better stick ot open days where you can blat off 1,000,000 rounds without any subtllety of plot at all mate. Oh yeah and indoors so you don't get wet poor thing .

Er.... I'm not sure it's that wise to brand some of our members as cheats, mate.

Just a couple more points.

a) Regarding the one-off games - I wasn't suggesting a commitment to a series of complicated interlinked campaign games (although others seemed to have started running with that). I'm just raising the point that convincing people to shell out for kit will be easier if it's made known that there is likely to be further opportunities to use that kit again (and again).

b) We are generally in favour of tighter units as long as the accuracy requirements don't change so we can still take part! For example, we don't do insignia and certainly don't do medals or badges so provided "generic" infantry/airborne/whatever would still be welcome we're all for it.

c) We would be perfectly happy pretending to be some unknown infantry unit as opposed to elite ones all the time.

d) U.N.I.T. v Daleks would be way better than Dad's Army. Yith could be the brigadier and the allies would just have to swap red berets for blue and hey presto. The daleks always were rather thinly disguised SS anyway.

A UNIT game woudl be awesome...